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Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.02.17 17:16:00 -
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One of the things that has baffled me to no end about these new forums is the "like" system. I'm not sure what purpose it serves. I have been more of a forum warrior/troll lately than I have in the past, and that has apparently garnered me a bunch of these "likes". They were at times used as tacit "I agree with you", or as "your post is funny", or simply "I am an ******* who uses a script to like a whole page of posters". Upon reaching "big round numbers" of "likes" (10, 50, 100, and now almost 500) I get weird vague feelings of accomplishment or affirmation... but I also feel bad for having them. In short, I am confused.
The confusion is only compounded by the fact that the thread listing shows a thread's "likes" as a total of all "likes" on all posts, even if they are all "liking" the second comment about how terrible the OP and the whole thread is.
What does "liking" a post mean to you? When do you "like" as opposed to posting a "+1" post, or similar? What, if anything, do you think upon seeing a person with a lot of "likes"? Do you even care?
Edit: added more airquotes around the word "like" everywhere.
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Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.02.17 17:25:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:I just liked your post, what does that mean to you? anything ?
I was asking you!
I am seriously not trolling, but trying to ask people what it means to them. From the start I have viewed it as a pointless endeavor to "Web2.0" the forums, but what with the CSM election requiring "likes" for their candidacy post, I am thinking that either I have it wrong (or am in the minority), or CCP has a disconnect going on between them and their players on what "likes" are.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.02.17 17:27:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:As far as my opinion of likes go I'd refer you to the third paragrapgh of This post I made during the Destination Skillqueue incident.
I "liked" it. Edit: forgot the airquotes.
Aerethir El-Kharisti wrote:I like this system for the prevention of arsehat posts. Also, it can be funny to read how someone hands somebody else's arse to them in a much liked comment no. 2
I see no way in which this prevents arsehat posts.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.02.17 17:42:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:About 300-500 likes is in my opinion the best score someone could have and makes me think of an actual good poster.
People with more likes are usually either trolls or attention whores or both.
Quote:Likes received: 841
So, should I not believe you, not pay attention to you, or both?
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Posted - 2012.02.17 18:00:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:This is pretty much the reason why I disabled the entire "total likes" counter from classic forum style by default.
Likes to single post can be used to indicate many things, but total count has no real use.
That's a pretty cool idea. However, total "likes" can also indicate forum alts, or new characters -- and I have found myself responding differently to those posters as opposed to "forum vets" with a few hundred likes.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.02.17 18:04:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:
Hmm, seems like something someone who doesn't have a lot of likes would say.
Define "a lot". 
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Posted - 2012.02.17 18:09:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:I just gave you your 500th "like".
Aww yeah!  I can feel the spaceship karma washing over me. Or that might just be the epic Immediate Music I'm listening to in the background.
Liang Nuren wrote:
Also, like counts are useless, but it is nice to know when someone legitimately likes a post. I'd like to see "like" implemented exactly the way it is, but only displayed to the person who is being liked. Which is to say it should be another manner of private communication.
-Liang
I could go for that. It would be used far less then, though.
I could also go for being able to list exactly who liked a particular forum post, or limiting "likes" to one "like" per post per account. I can't help the feeling that so many of these CSM candidates only got 100 "likes" because their 20-30 man corp "liked" with all their alts.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Posted - 2012.02.17 18:24:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:
The total count is more or less a joke, but as someone said earlier - it may give rough idea how active/old poster someone has been. I would prefer to see post count and character age for this purpose though.
... We need the seniority "ranks" tags that exist on phpBB forums, stat.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Posted - 2012.02.17 18:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:And dislike button :D The problem with dislikes is that they will only ever attract the GÇ£zero-star monkeysGÇ¥, and in an already politicised and troll-heavy environment such as EVE, it would just be awful in every way imaginable. Some kind of post/like ratio to keep us postingwhores in check might be a bit more useful though.
That is probably implementable by Chribba on eve-search.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Posted - 2012.02.17 18:43:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Everyone likes to be liked?
Okay.
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Posted - 2012.02.17 18:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:It's essentially already there on the stats page: the total posts and total likes are right next to each other (0.25! yay!  )
0.424... noob!
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Posted - 2012.02.17 18:53:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Tippia wrote:It's essentially already there on the stats page: the total posts and total likes are right next to each other (0.25! yay! ) Where do you find your total post count ? probably being dense but can't seem to find mine in my profile.
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/Professor_Alphane
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Posted - 2012.02.17 19:03:00 -
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Hmm... like-post ratio (LPR) is unfair. Those who were derping around the forums since the beginning of time (see: Liang) have a definite disadvantage, as none of their old posts can be "liked" and eve-search is too good about seamless integration.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.02.17 19:17:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:No it's cos someone went postal with the likes button at new year........ ring any bells 
Heheh... "postal".
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:04:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:My pleasure - it's nice t o be liked!
lyk dis if u cry evry tim
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